Knights of Malta 1757 Pinto 30 Tarì Forgeries
I became aware of these forgeries after I won an auction on eBay (Item #3911508614 Chinese Seller cliff*) on the 1st May 2004. The coin was being sold as "unknown" and had a dot after MAIOR, which was a variety I had not seen before. On the day the auction ended I left for a month’s visit to Malta, so I didn't see the coin until I returned in June. I became concerned after I weighed the coin and saw that it was only 25.2gm. This is about 4 gm lighter than the average Pinto 30 Tari (30 Tari range between 28.2gm to 29.7gm with an average of 29.1gm).
Special things to look for beside the weight of the coin. (1)
The O in NON is broken,
Please help stop these Fakes by reporting them to eBay. To do this go to http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html
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EBay Information |
Actual photo used in eBay listing |
eBay # - 3911508614 Seller - cliff* Location - China Buyer - Private (Me) Price paid - US$153.28 Date - 1st May 2004 Weight : 25.20gm
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eBay # - 3925343961
Seller - buyoldcoins -
Location - China Buyer - Private Price paid - US$127.50 Date - 15th August 2004 |
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eBay # - 3936116373 Seller - egli2 Location - Germany Buyer - Private (cettina) Price Paid - US$155.00 Date - 17th October 2004
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Ebay # - 3939165474 Sellere - lr_2000 Location - China Buyer - Private Price paid - US$141.77 Date - 10th November 2004
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eBay # - 3941992250 Seller - wuxk Location - China Buyer - Private Price paid - US$122.50 Date - 17 November 2004 |
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eBay # - 3948135755 Seller - cliff* Location - China Buyer - Private Price paid - US$153.50 19th December 2004 |
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eBay # - 3958081986 Seller - free_coin Location - China Buyer - Private Price paid - US$152.50 Date - 19th February 2005 |
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eBay# - 3960101194
Seller - e-gold2008 Location - China buyer - trance-er Price paid - US$60.00 Date - 24th February 2005 Note; same scan as free_coin |
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eBay # 3963487305
Seller -
rose_coin Location - China buyer - Private Price paid - US$115.50 Date - 16th March 2005
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eBay # 3969717290 Seller - clarke_quay Location - Germany (acutely in Hong Kong) buyer - paolo_rossato Price paid - EUR 71.00 Date - 18th April 2005 |
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eBay #
3970142000
Seller -
rose_coin Location - China buyer - Private Price paid - US$93.50 Date - 21st April 2005 |
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eBay #
3974527077
Seller -
no_fake_coin Location - China Price paid - Removed after report sent to eBay. Date - 16th May 2005 |
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eBay #
3976825209
Seller -
rose_coin Location - China buyer - Private Price paid - US$64.20 Date - 1st June 2005 NOTE: Seller has used the same photo as no_fake_coin |
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eBay #
3979282656
Seller -
rose_coin Location - China Price paid - Removed after report sent to eBay. Date - 8th June 2005 NOTE: Seller has used the same photo as his previous auction. |
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eBay # 8317403532
Seller -
baijinhai123 Location - Hong Kong buyer - Private Price paid - Item removed after report sent to eBay. Date - 11th July 2005 |
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eBay # 8365995826 Seller - rosettaeast Location - Hampshire UK buyer - Seller stopped auction after being advised that the coin was a forgery. Price paid - withdrawn Date - 28th December 2005 |
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eBay# 8390203727
Seller - villa1970 Location - Berlin Germany buyer - Seller stopped auction after being advised that the coin was a forgery. Price paid - withdrawn Date - 1st March 2006 Weight : 25.40gm |
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eBay#
150002130225 Seller - ram866 Location - Middlebury, VT, USA buyer - Honest seller removed coin as soon as he was told it was a forgery. Price paid - withdrawn Date - 25th June 2006 Weight : |
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eBay#
330001950749
Seller - tbjuacw Location - Edison, NJ, USA buyer - Coin finally withdrawn after being contact twice and putting a report into EBay. Price paid - withdrawn Date - 27th June 2006 Weight : 26.3gm |
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250042660243 Seller - clarke_quay (also see above item # 3969717290 Location - Says Germany but could be in Hong Kong buyer - Private I was the highest bidder. I ask for the weight of the coin and when I was told it was 25.7grams, I informed the sell it was a Fake and did not pay. Price paid - did not pay Date - 28th October 2006 |
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250095584821 Seller - prof-numismatics Location - Yugoslavia buyer - vassj - I have contacted the buyer and advised him that this is a forgery. Price paid - US$132.50 Date - 24th March 2007 Weight : |
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eBay#
260180205738
Seller -lieutenant999 Location - Yugoslavia Weight : |
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eBay#
280205149098
Seller -moneti2000 Location - USA |